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Hi guys, this is my first post on the wizard and I am hoping someone can help me out. I would like to know the best strategy for attacking 8 deck bj at my nearby casino. Their rules are : -8 decks -S on S17 - no DAS - double on any 1st 2 cards -can re split to 3 hands -no re split aces -no surrender -bj pays 3:2 .. I am fairly new to blackjack but I have basic strategy memorized and I have been practicing my but off counting cards (hi low) I am wondering if counting cards would be effective against these rules ? Another thing is they use cut cards at approx 6 decks in (removing 2 decks). I have also wondered if counting works with these cut cards in play? Please help me become a better player and earn some extra dough to pay for next semester! -thanks

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Lemieux66

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What's your bankroll? That's an incredibly important first question.

10 eyes for an eye. 10 teeth for a tooth. 10 bucks for a buck?! Hit the bad guys where it hurts the most: the face and the wallet.

jket25

My bankroll is at $15,000, I was thinking about a spread of 1-12 playing $5 min tables my max bet being $60

Lemieux66

My bankroll is at $15,000, I was thinking about a spread of 1-12 playing $5 min tables my max bet being $60

Holy crap that's a good bit of change for that spread. If you don't get any heat you should make money.

10 eyes for an eye. 10 teeth for a tooth. 10 bucks for a buck?! Hit the bad guys where it hurts the most: the face and the wallet.

jket25

Do you think counting is the best way then? I'm just iffy on it due to the 8 decks and cut card , I feel like that might hurt my odds while counting

jket25

Do you think 4,000-5,000 is a more reasonable bankroll for this spread ?

AcesAndEights

Do you think 4,000-5,000 is a more reasonable bankroll for this spread ?

More bankroll is always better. Basically your Risk of Ruin is pretty low with that bankroll spreading 5-60, which is a good thing! You should spread higher, if possible. No DAS is a weird rule to have at an 8 deck game, especially a S17 8 deck game. I have never seen a S17 8-deck game, to be honest. 8 Deck Blackjack

You are playing with an advantage, assuming everything you say is true and you are competent. Not sure how much of an edge, though. 75% pen is pretty bad for 8 deck.

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Lemieux66

More bankroll is always better. Basically your Risk of Ruin is pretty low with that bankroll spreading 5-60, which is a good thing! You should spread higher, if possible. No DAS is a weird rule to have at an 8 deck game, especially a S17 8 deck game. I have never seen a S17 8-deck game, to be honest.
You are playing with an advantage, assuming everything you say is true and you are competent. Not sure how much of an edge, though. 75% pen is pretty bad for 8 deck.

That might be the trade off for a 5 dollar min game with s17.

10 eyes for an eye. 10 teeth for a tooth. 10 bucks for a buck?! Hit the bad guys where it hurts the most: the face and the wallet.

HowMany

Your bankroll is adequate, but the game is pretty weak. You have an edge, but it's small. Your N0 is sky high.
It's a good game to practice and hone your skills, but not a good money maker.
See you at the tables, man.

98Clubs

I would say..
1.) learn Basic Strategy perfectly
2.) learn Hi/low perfectly
3.) Keep your decisions reletively simple (hit 2-card 16 vs. 10, but stand 3-card 16, DD 9 or Soft 18 vs. 2, 11 vs Ace, etc.) don't go that extra mile at +EV, build confidence
4.) Spreading 5-60 at a game with an EV of -0.6% isn't gonna win much.. like maybe 60 units ($300) in 50,000 hands. But is a good solid way to get involved. A better Stand soft-17 game is on the East Coast, with DAS, Split 4 handed, and Surrender (EV -0.35%). The 8-deckers on E. Coast are 75-85% penetration.
5.) The cut-card has little effect (maybe 0.02%) on 8 decks. You will find that generally a shoe will stay good or stay bad longer than games with 2 decks. When bad leave. When good stay.
6.) Keep this little rule in mind.. don't raise your bet until you win at the better 'level', and then limit it to a double-up. But ALWAYS reduce the bet when the score indicates to do so, and always make the correct bet when reducing.

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Here's the situation:
You're playing in a multiple deck game, and receive a five and a three for a two-card total of eight while the dealer flips a six as his upcard. Standing with this hand is, of course, out of the question. Your decision comes down to whether you're going to hit the hand or double down. Which of these do you do?

My best advice as to the correct play is not to double, but to hit the hand.

Look - having the eight is really not a strong enough hand to be doubling on. Remember that the average dealer hand comes out to a value of 18.23. So as far as a winning hand is concerned, you're holding something that is actually less than average.

Also remember that even with a six as his upcard, the dealer will only bust about 43% of the time. So your positive yield for doubling is minimal since you're only going to win 4% more than you lose.

On the other hand, when you hit the eight, you'll win nine more hands than you lose, per hundred. So your gain with simply hitting is slightly greater than if you executed a double-down.

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Always keep in mind that opinions are not relevant in the game of blackjack. Mathematics matters. Probability takes precedence. Solid basic play is not predicated on the proposition that your 'hunch' is going to work this time around. We play the percentages. We don't flinch. We memorize the right way to go and we do it every time.<